DFL COUNTRY: MN 4th worst state to own or relocate a business

18 responses to DFL COUNTRY: MN 4th worst state to own or relocate a business

  1. outsider
    outsider January 26th, 2014 at 10:31 am

    If you go to the NFIB Facebook page you will see the flood of reviews from liberals…..very funny how obvious they are about their attempt at sabotage!

  2. DavyJones
    DavyJones January 29th, 2014 at 4:05 am

    Although that I live in Minnesota since birth, I never had a business in Minnesota. I used an insurance agent, lawyer, or family member to locate my business in another state. Every year I would watch the big business companies to see where was the spot to be for licensing and permits. They would go to the least costly state for their running area. Then I would do the same on paper.

    • Bryce from Lincoln Park
      Bryce from Piedmont November 12th, 2014 at 1:43 pm

      In other words Dave, You are a free loader of Minnesotas great systems, s set up for its citizens, and pay your taxes and fees, that are supposed to support these systems to another state? And you are proud of this? What a great American you are!!

  3. Bryce from Lincoln Park
    Bryce from Piedmont November 12th, 2014 at 1:57 pm

    Regarding the 4th worst…… statement…. This says we are 46th yet FORBES Businesses Quarterly, one of the worlds formost authorities, ranks Minnesota as number 10….the 10th best state to start a business in!!!! Someone is here is lying!! You choose who it is.

    • Exposer
      Exposer November 12th, 2014 at 8:06 pm


      As usual you don’t have a clue with your Forbes rhetoric and someone is lying conspiracy blather.

      Here’s yet another source with 137 pages of facts http://alec.org/docs/RSPS_7th_Edition.pdf which clearly demonstrate how your DFL comrades are doing in attracting and maintaining businesses.

      Because you’re a DFLer I will type it out slow for you:

      Page 106 where Minnesota is ranked 46th on in economic outlook.

      Page 61 Minnesota is in the bottom 10.

      Page 56 Minnesota is 8th in the WORLD in top marginal rate on capital gains.

      Page 54 Minnesota is 3rd in combined federal and state rates.

      Page 45 “Minnesotans already have a strong incentive to become snow birds and flee because of the cold winters. Now they have two reasons to leave.”

      Page 45 “The Center for the American Experiment, a Minnesota research group, found that $3 billion of income has been lost to the state since 1995 because of Minnesotans relocating to Florida and Arizona.”

      Page 45 Minnesota is number 10 in death tax revenue by state.

      Page 44 “The worst offender is Minnesota, which in 2013 enacted a new 10 percent gift tax with a $1 million exemption, though the state thankfully repealed the law a year later in 2014. A gift tax is a levy on money given away while still alive. This tax was in addition to Minnesota’s 16 percent estate tax.”

      Page 40 Minnesota has the 3rd highest corporate tax rate.

      Page 6 “now makes Minnesota the state with the fourth highest income taxes in the country. Additional tax increases as part of the $2 billion included instituting a gift tax and taxing various business inputs, such as storage and telecommunications equipment. ”

      Bryce, the least you could do is get your facts straight. But you’re right when you stated above “someone is here is lying”. It’s you Bryce; whether it’s intentional or ignorance.

      On the bright side Bryce, you motivated me to share this information as the top post tomorrow.

  4. outsider
    outsider November 12th, 2014 at 3:45 pm

    Yes Bryce, when people go to open a business their first thought is “I will look for the State that will take the most possible amount of the $$’s I worked hard for, took risks for, employ people with. It really does make business sense to pay as many taxes as possible because there are people out there who need the money you earned. Geesh, how selfish to think you should be able to support your family and employ people and still make some profit. There are bike trails to be built and welfare recipients need their beer and lobster!

    • Bryce from Lincoln Park
      Bryce from Piedmont November 12th, 2014 at 5:44 pm

      You obviously think the only criteria a potential business looks for is tax rates?????? Absolutly wrong!!! Wrong if this were true businesses from Calif, New York, Minnesota, etc etc would be FLOCKING to Nevada, Texas, Missippi, Alabama, sorry to say it isn’t so. By the way.,.. I and most labor oriented people deplore the current welfare system ….so don’t categorize me in other areas, just as just as some , people who are pro gun ownership my be pro choice and atheists!

  5. outsider
    outsider November 12th, 2014 at 9:59 pm

    Bryce, you forgot Arkansas,,, where Superwood went. Remember.

  6. Bryce from Lincoln Park
    Bryce from Piedmont November 13th, 2014 at 12:41 am

    I am fully aware of ALEC and its 300 corporate sponsors, I would not favor their opinion over Forbes, but if you do I can’t change that. First off I assume you know the difference between tax Rates and the amount of actual taxes paid after deductions. Sometimes this can be %5 , and that goes for Bus taxes as well as personal taxes. 2nd if you think it works to lower the corporate and personal taxes to attract companies, the states I mentioned prove you wrong, It would just be a race to the bottom. Third,, I’ll bet I pay …way…. more taxes than you do, and I do not complain about it. The standard of living we receive up here is well worth it. Finally, if you still believe we live in a “free market system” any where CLOSE to what, to its original meaning, you are living in a dream world. In a true “free market system” someone would be able to open a business for themselves, selling electronics or shoes for instance, International conglomerates such as Walmart would destroy you in a month. and Saunders if you would pay as close attention to my content rather than the spelling you would end up being a lot smarter. Victor Faith is a lot better man than you can ever hope to be.

    • Exposer
      Exposer November 13th, 2014 at 7:28 am


      Again just more leftist talking points with no proof. I provided quantitative data and you just spew more of the same old gossip with nothing to back what you are stating. If you want me to take you serious provide data from economists like I did.

      Other readers, do we need a post started to list all the DFL Country jobs lost since Obama took over? 141 jobs were lost at the DFL Duluth Georgia Pacific plant.

  7. Bryce from Lincoln Park
    Bryce from Piedmont November 13th, 2014 at 12:00 pm

    Proof… OK Business Insider Magazine……”Minn deserves a B despite higher tax rates its easy to start a business there.”Chief Executive newsletter..Min 34 ranking to start a business. CEO Magazine….29th best place……Forbes Magazine, 8th best place [ I was a little wrong I said 4] 5th in quality of life…..13 th in growth potential, 18 in quality labor supply.. Of course you have to put pressure on any business to PAY TAXES,… they all want to take everything they can without paying any money, all wages paid are a liability, If you let Businesses operate with low or no taxes… Where do you think the money will come from to build/ fix roads, pay teachers, operate the city hall, fire and police dept, or even offer incentives for other businesses to locate there? It will come out of YOUR pocket, the average working man or woman.. Look at Arkansas…They lured Businesses there with that plan now they have a Hugh deficit , and cant pay their teachers..

  8. Bryce from Lincoln Park
    Bryce from Piedmont November 13th, 2014 at 12:13 pm

    Saunders,,,, F… Jane you and your “friend” Rex Bordon lived in a Apt on So 9th St while my future wife Ramona and her friend Jeanie, lived in the other apt Remember the Red 1967 MustanG???

  9. NRA Member
    NRA Member November 13th, 2014 at 11:58 pm

    Here’s a list of a few thousand higher paying jobs that have left Minnesota since Dayton came into office.

    DPMS Panther Arms
    Georgia Pacific
    Nash Finch
    Navarre Corp.

    Actions speak louder than the words of brainwashed libtards. How many more thousand jobs have to be lost before the libtards get it?

  10. Bryce from Lincoln Park
    Bryce from Piedmont July 3rd, 2015 at 2:01 pm

    I guess none of you_at least the ones who are literate…. Missed the story last week that put Minnesota at the TOP of the places to start a business??

  11. Bryce from Lincoln Park
    Bryce from Piedmont July 4th, 2015 at 10:56 pm

    No they just reported…the story.

  12. Exposer
    Exposer July 6th, 2015 at 11:05 am

    Hi Bryce,

    You can post the story here in the comments or email it to us. I will gladly post it.

  13. NRA Member
    NRA Member July 7th, 2015 at 9:17 am

    Exposer the troll Bryce puts libtard comments out just to antagonize people. Seriously don’t post his garbage on here!

    The troll came to a CRC meeting spewing his liberal BS and was thrown out. Listening to this moron without a conscience was appalling but the look on his face was priceless as he exited.



    Bryce from Piedmont June 20th, 2014 at 7:45 pm

    As I said this “sight” has not changed a bit…just childish adults calling people names..I did a lot of drugs in my youth, had a great time bedding all the hippy chicks I could get my hands on.refused to go to Vietnam, and finished a college degree, and a tech school degree,so who is the dumb ass here???? But that was long ago,the wife and I just got back from our 6 trip overseas, this time to eastern Europe to visit some friends. So tell me again ,who is the dumb ass here? Received a Govorners pardon for all my past bad behavior, in 1995, totally clean record enough to get a level 3 Federal security clearance for work in nuclear plant. Now tell me again ….Who is the dumb ass here??? Living very well on investments and pension from my Union work, no worries enjoying Duluth’s bike paths.Now tell me one more time which one of us is the dumb ass?

    Bryce from Piedmont June 21st, 2014 at 7:33 pm

    I have nothing to fear, I am open about my life and my shortcomings…I have made a good life for myself and would not change a thing. nothing at all. Best things to happen to me : my wonderful wife, my union membership, my 7 children, I am a militant atheist, Democrats to the core, and have NO FEARS, repeat, NO FEARS at all, and that is very freeing!!!These losers on this blog are typical tea party members, never been anywhere, or received a higher education about the world, they sit and complain, call people names like 6th graders,angry because their like is not what they expected, married in many cases to someone they don’t like any more, and dream about some military revolution they want to be in so they keep their guns polished and loaded. What they don’t realize is THEY are responsible for there unhappy lives, not the Democratic party,immigrants, Obama, unions, the Duluth city council, or liberals..I don’t spend much time on this blog because it is not a discussion,or debate merely a way for them to vent anonymously, and call people names they would NEVER dare to do in the real world…

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